A Note on Divisional Charts

Since I assume the audience here (in this series of articles) is intermediate to advanced in their knowledge of astrology, I will take the liberty of not explaining basic terminologies or assumptions which form an integral part of such writings. I wish to discuss a few topics I am asked about very frequently-

(I) Planets in Navamsa affect you later in life?

D9 or Navamsa on a physical manifestation represents the spouse/ marriage and the dignity of planets and hence is to be consulted for marital matters along with its status as one of the most important of all divisionals.

The reason for this high importance of D9 is the fact that it is akin to the fruit if D1 or rasi chart is the tree. Navamsa signifies the real dignity of a planet as it represents the dignity of the learnings the planet gives via its dasa or early in the early part of life.

In a spiritual context it is the crystallized thought process one develops after learnings and experiences in life and thus the concept of it triggering later in life or later in a dasa

This is the logic that goes behind a planet strong in Navamsa giving better results later in life or later in the course of its dasa as the Navamsa will depict your internal/ soul’s learning from what the planet offered in its dasa

Another point to keep in mind is that the concept of exaltation and debilitation holds more value in D1 than any other harmonic including navamsa. Exaltation comes in particular sign nakshatra and degree for each planet due to deeply specific reasons as per sage parasara. But keep in mind as an example moon is exalted in the second pad of krittika which is the first navamsa of taurus. In the second navamsa of taurus moon becomes mooltrikona. BUT..in Navamsa or dasamsa or any other divisional 2nd pad of krittika does NOT fall after first in Krittika etc. In other words the ‘lengths’ are immaterial in the harmonics

Hence in any divisonal, even though the software will spit out a degree in that divisonal the planet has, it is insignificant as exaltation is defined for D1 as the nakshatras dont exist in divisonals as they become mathematical points. So a deeply exalted Moon in 2nd Pad of Krittika, will not give bad results later in life or later in its dasa!

So what does it mean? A planet in its own ‘shade’ i.e. own rashi or mooltrikona rashi is stronger than an exalted planet in a divisonal like navamsa or any other divisional. Hence Jupiter is preferable to have in Saggi or Pisces in any divisional as opposed to Cancer as far as shadbala or manifestation of results is concerned.

 

(II) Is Saturn better to be in Capricorn/ Aquarius as opposed to Libra in Navamsa?

Aquairus is best followed by Capricorn and then Libra. Also a Virgottam planet is strong too (unless the virgottam is happeing in an inimical sign for the planet) Hence Virgottam in Aries will not be good as Saturn is debilitated and agitated in Aries as it considers Mars as a mortal enemy

mathematically the saptvarga component of shadbala contributes about  60-65% of entire shadbala potential for a planet. Saptvarga as you know is one of the components of Sthana Bala for a planet.

From an understanding perspective a planet in own sign in a divisonal is precipitating that energy deeply as its signifying it’s own energy. As an example, in a divisional sun in aries is precipitating the energy of mars much of which is not really sun’s agenda. However it is still good as Sun considers Mars to be a great friend, but Sun is best placed in Leo in terms of any divisional (from a mathematical perspective of strength as well)

(III) Are Yogas to be considered in Divisional Charts?

This is highly controversial among Vedic  astrologers. In my humble experience and knowledge, the answer is NO!

Divisionals are not independent charts by themselves. They provide deep rooted and specific information in particular areas of life but have to be seen in context of the D1 chart and not independently read for Yogas etc. That does not mean one should not observe the interactions of planets in divisionals as they all have a meaning, but a Gajakesari Yoga in a divisional is irrelevant in the absolute context as the yoga is not physically occurring. Physical manifestation of planets is happening ONLY in the D1 chart and hence Yogas in the divisionals are mathematical formulations and not ‘Live events’ actually influencing the person in the physical manifestion of day to day life.

I advocate the Rashi Tulya Navamsa methodology. As an example in Navamsa if Jupiter is placed in cancer and in Rasi chart it is placed in Virgo as the 9th house, then Jupiter is also affecting the 7th house of the chart as Cancer will be the 7th bhaav in the lagna chart. hence the significations of Jupiter in 9th in D1 will manifest or ‘Ripen’ through 7th bhaav significations which can include spouse/ partnerships or foreign lands (all 7th features)

Another important point to note is that if a planet is Virgottam in any divisional, it will tend to give the effects of that Chart significations very strongly. Example say Capricorn lagna and Mercury in 9th house (ruling 6th and 9th) and virgottam in navamsa (in virgo in navamsa). Now this Mercury even though doesn’t rule the 7th house or marriage or even if not related to Moon (lord of 7th house) will still tend to precipitate marriage or marriage related effects for the native as D9 (navamsa) is also the chart of marriage and Mercury has become Virgottam in that particular Harmonic. So such results can precipitate in the dasas of Mercury regardless of no apparent connection of Mercury with the 7th bhaav of marriag in this case.

Likewise a planet Virgottam in Dasamsa will tend to give career/ job related effects very strongly in its dasas and a planet Virgottam in D3 will tend to give sibling related effects in its dasas etc.

54 Responses to A Note on Divisional Charts

  1. Dinesh Maini says:

    Dear VS
    The interpretation of vargottam planets for delineation of D1 is wonderful!
    Thanks
    Dinesh Maini

  2. sambit says:

    sir,
    Planets in conjunction or mutual aspect in D1 are if in conjunction in D9 again then what will be the effect and the difference if 2 malefic planets conjunction and benefic planet conjunction

    • VS says:

      If a planet is in conjunction in D1 and D9, it means they are within 3.3 degrees of each other. it is a very stong combination. The effects will be as per the houses ruled by the 2 planets as well as they house where they are conjunct

  3. sambit dash says:

    hello,
    Kapiel raaj in one of his video mentions that debilitated saturn in D10 does really well and although it may create problems initially but it does well and secondly he mentions that planets in fire signs do really well in D10. What is your opinion in this regard?

    • VS says:

      Kapiel is a good guy. he gets excited often too

      you can not generalize any such rule that Saturn debilitated in D10 will do well. or planets in fire signs do well in D10. every horoscope and effects will be different. In general exaltation and debilitation is not that relevant in a divisional chart than in rasi

      in any divisional chart, best is to have a planet in its own sign, next is best friends and friend’s sign etc. so lets say for Saturn, it is best to have it in aquarius, then Capricorn and then libra and Taurus and venus is an intimate friend of Saturn. Next will be signs of mercury then Jupiter etc.

      having Saturn in an inimical sign of aries, cancer, leo or scorpio is the worst situation as far as any divisional including D10 goes

      • Sundar says:

        Sri VS:
        With Capricorn asc virgottam in D-1, D-9; Saturn sitting in Pisces with decent strength , shadbal 105 in D-1, saturn’s BAV 5, SAV for Pisces 36; However in D-9, saturn in Leo and Sun in Aquarius; Does this mean Saturn is not good in the later part of life (50 years and older may be)?

        • VS says:

          it means Saturn is saturn

          • Sundar says:

            Does the concept of marakasthana apply to D-9?

          • Sundar says:

            VS, since you mentioned “Saturn in an inimical sign of aries, cancer, leo or scorpio is the worst situation as far as any divisional “, I was thinking..could D-9 significantly alter the D-1 for saturn? Also does it matter that saturn sits in the 8th house in D-9? Thanks.

          • VS says:

            any divisional affects that area of life more for any planet

            so D10 planet good or not affects the area of life in terms of career/ job etc.

            strength or weakness in any divisional only modifies the D1 a little. Not completely over turn it. So a debilitated and combust planet in D1, no matter own house in all divisionals will only redeem some of the strength and will mostly remain negative towards its significations in the chart

      • sambit dash says:

        Okay an additional query I had read an article on saptarshi website about the concept of bhavotamma where the planet is in same house in divisional as birth chart and few examples of prominent people having such placement was shown but in divisionals we only consider the sign not the house placement so what is your opinion in this regard?

        • VS says:

          Sambit-

          It is a very good question. the concept of bhavotamma is indeed very important.
          the logic is the actual understanding of the underlying reason. A planet in 7th bhaav in D1 will be in 7th bhaav in D9 only if it is in the navamsa which is right at the center of the bhaav. So lets say Capricorn ascendant rising at 18 degrees. If a planet sits in 17 degrees in cancer, it will be in 7th bhaav in D1 and D9. thus it will be very strong in residential strength (closeness to bhaav Madhya).

          careful this means bhaav Madhya not rashi Madhya. in same example if lagna degrees is 3 in Capricorn, then a planet at 2 degrees in cancer will be bhaavottama

          • sambit dash says:

            Okay but is it applicable to only D9 because i have got a chart where ascendant at 19 deg and rahu and ketu at 18 deg and both in same house in D10 as in ascendant but not in D9. Is bhavotamma concept applicable here?

          • VS says:

            bhavottama is applicable to all divisionals

            you have to be careful with it. say same example of 18 degree Capricorn rising. A planet is at 18 degrees in 9th bhaav in D1. This planet will be in lagna in D9 not in 9th in D9. that’s simple maths. You have to get a bit deep into how the divisional calculations are done

            bottomline is that a bhaavottama planet – especially one which is bhavottama in many vargas is bhaav 1 or 7 especially will be potent and yoga creating…

            so if a person has venus at 12 degrees in lagna and lagna degree is also about 12. venus will come in bhaav 1 in most divisionals and will automatically become a raj yoga creating planet for the native

  4. sambit dash says:

    Got it. thank you

  5. Sundar says:

    VS, Is Pushya Paksha Ayanamsa more accurate if it can be calculated correctly? To quote from what I read:

    Chitra Paksha: “we actually can not fix Spica there, for it does not even lie on the ecliptic plane or the zodiacal plane! We can merely fix the projection of Spica onto the zodiacal plane, at 0Li0”.

    Pushya: “Delta Cancri (Asellus Australis) is at the centre and it is indeed right on the ecliptic plane, i.e. at a latitude of 0°! We define Pushya-paksha ayanamsa by fixing the sidereal longitude of Delta Cancri at 16Cn0”

    What is your observation in all the horoscope readings you have done?

    • VS says:

      good and important question

      i have done tremendous research on normal Lahiri aka chitrapaksha

      modified lahiri, fixing spica works better but the difference in Lahiri and modified lahiri is small

      I have not utlized PP much and i think the degree of each planet will jump by approximately 1.3 degrees and many planets can change signs or nakshatras and navamsas. I dont think that would fit a lot of research I have already done…hence i dont think PP is accurate

  6. dheer says:

    hi

    if sat is deb in D1 but exalted in D9 but conjoined with rahu, will the native still experience d1 deb.

    secondly, in varga charts transits are to be judged as in d1 or we have to erect the as if now varga then judge. example, saturn is scorpio transit so in d10 we have to take same scorpio sign or we have to check in which rashi saturn is in d10 of current time chart and then take that rashi.

    • VS says:

      any planet debilitated in D1 and exalted in any other divisional will still remain debilitated for its overall effect. however a great placement in a divisional implies that the aspects of life related part of life get improved. Or in other words if Saturn deb in D1 & own house in D10. so Saturn is a negative planet for the individual, however in career related matters, it will not do much damage and might even help

      • Sundar says:

        Related question Vivek:
        How about a planet in good strength in D-1 but placed in an enemy house in D-9? I have heard that D-9 represents the phala whereas D-1 shows the potential..Is this true?

        • VS says:

          Like I have said before D1 is the most important. D9 gives a better color and can reduce or intensify the impact of a planet to some extent. however if a planet is very strong in D1, D9 can only take it from 100 to say 80 as an impact but not below that

  7. Digamber Purohit says:

    Sir, general comment – majority of these planets only bring negative results to people. This is is my overall observation. For e.g. in Leo (Simha) ascendants, Jupiter is friend to Sun, but because of 8 house lordship, will cause some hardships or hurdles, no matter where it is placed. Same with Mars – acts as Badhakesh (9th lord) while also being the yogakaraka for Leo lagna, and so gives mixed results at best. I’ve seen charts of Makar and Kumbha (Lagna, rashi or both) and even mighty Shani did not spare them from ill effects of Jupiter who of course is enemy here. Some of them had really tough time in Venus, Mercury sub-dasha (even though friends of Shani…!) Really peculiar.

    • VS says:

      No that is not correct. The ownership of a planet is just a small part of the story. most vital is the placement, dignity and aspects/ conjunctions/ yogas a planet is involved in an individual chart.

      so venus for Capricorn is a yoga karaka for sure. but if placed combust in enmical sign or Leo in 8th bhaav without any Jupiter or Mercury aspect, its dasas will cause more harm and pain than good. So everything is specific to individual horoscope and placements and not just generic or functional nature of planets

  8. sambit dash says:

    Have you ventured into nadi astrology because in my limited knowledge its analysis is completely different then parashari and how accurate can it be?

    • VS says:

      actually most nadis (there are many different kinds of nadis) rely on parasari principles exclusively

      the rules dont change, emphasis is placed on slower transits of saturn, jupiter, rahu and ketu as well as yogas in the chart.

  9. Sundar says:

    Vivek, does the concept of bhaav, aspects apply to D-9 and other divs? Like..Can I look at the 7th from the D-9 asc and see how the relationships will be affected?

    • VS says:

      relevant bhaav from divisional is vital. example 7th in D9, 4th in D4, 5th in D7, 4th and 9th in D12 etc

  10. Sundar says:

    Sri VS:
    Does the lagna lord of a divisional determine the strength of that divisional like the Lagna Lord does for D-1? (I understand the D-1 lagna lord alone does make the D-1 strong).

    • VS says:

      both lagna of the divisional and the karaka of the divisional (sun and moon in D12 for parents, venus for spouse for males etc)

      karaka should not be in lagna of divisional – a placement that becomes tricky and gives results like bhavo karak naashe, example venus in 1st house in D9 for males

      • Sundar says:

        Sri VS:
        In fact, I am seeing in front of me the D-9 of a divorced couple’s horoscopes; Mars in
        the 7th (with Moon) in the girl’s and Venus in the asc in male’s; that’s the reason I have been pestering you on the DIVs.
        How would I see if there’s a 2nd for the girl? Do 2nd marriages work out better in such cases? Much thanks.

        • VS says:

          When I say I cant do personal readings, it doesn’t mean you ask bits and pieces of info from a horoscope. that ways it is impossible to read any chart anyways. Now coming to what you asked – forget all divisionals. First see what is happening in D1 and why is the divorce indicated? see in both girl and boy’s chart by simply the planets, karakas and dasas/ transits.

          If you can answer that well, the D9 will all come next. Divisional chart readings are not that simple, rules don’t work simply as in D1 and I have seen people get very confused in divisionals and just interpret them in whatever they want to …that’s not right. just focus on D1 and do thousands of case studies first. once you get to a good level of expertise, the divisional charts will start to make more sense. these are to be used to confirm something you see in D1, not stand alone charts for readings…

      • Sundar says:

        Sri VS:
        Venus for male (wife) and Jupiter/Mars for female (husband) should not be in the ascendant from a Sthira Karaka angle.

        From a naisargika karaka angle since Venus signifies marriage for both male and female and Venus being the significator of the 7th, it should not be in the 7th in D-1, but Venus or Jupiter can be in the 7th in D-9.

        Am I correct?

  11. Sundar says:

    Sri VS:
    Venus being the marriage Karaka for a male, can I do the following:
    Look at:
    1. The house in D-1 where Venus is seated.
    2. The sign in D-9 where Venus is seated.
    3. The corresponding house in D-1.

    I am, like, analyzing it like I do the 7th lord. Is this valid? If yes, what kind of conclusion can be arrived it in terms of the Phal.

    Thanks.

    • VS says:

      look where venus is situated and then look at the 7th sign from it. then look at the arudha of the 7th sign from venus. All these will show wife..the strongest of these bhaavas will show most. if any of these falls on 7th house from lagna, then it will show most

      • Sundar says:

        Sri VS:
        S. Rath has defined Arudha pada as the “mount”, which would give it a lot more importance as compared to what most others that say it is the “maya” of the house. How do you define it? Can you also put that in the context of the above (arudha of the 7th from Venus).
        Much appreciated.

      • Sundar says:

        Sri VS:
        I need a clarification on “arudha of the 7th sign from venus” :
        If the 7th sign from Venus falls in the 3rd house from Vrischik lagna, should I take the arudha of the 3rd house or should look at the nth house from Venus to Saturn (say Saturn is 9th from Venus) and count 9 from Saturn?

        • VS says:

          if taurus lagna and venus in capricorn is the horoscope of a man.
          then in addition to scorpio (7th house) and mars and ketu (rulers of scorpio), you have to also look at venus and then next 7th from venus (in this case cancer) and arudha of cancer in the horo. Meaning say moon is in Leo. So arudha of 7th from venus will be in virgo. Virgo will become very important for the married life/ wife of the male. look for commonality. Meaning say the same person has mars and ketu in virgo. in this situation 7th lord, co lord and arudha of 7th from venus all are related to virgo. Virgo sign will be either lagna/ arudha lagna or moon/ sun or otherwise very important sign of the spouse of such a male, even more so than scorpio sign. Strength of venus in the horoscope – dignity, direction, shadbal and associations of mercury become vital to understand the wife of the native and her fortune or lack of it

  12. S Sharma says:

    Dear VS ji,

    Hope you are well. A few questions when you have a chance, many thanks.

    Which more often ( Or perhaps there is rough parity) possesses the dominant narrative, lagna of a given D chart or the pertinent house of the varga ? (Pertinent House = 7th house for D9 or 10th house for D10 etc..).

    How do varga lagna and the pertinent house differ if at all?

    How would you handle a severely conflicting scenario? E.g. Saturn in Aries in D10 lagna and Mars in 10th in Capricorn – there is NB in this setup so please ignore it.

    Thank you!

    • VS says:

      Both lagna and pertinent house are important in a varga chart. lagna for the overall strength of the varga chart (or lack of it) and pertinent house for the specific significations in the life for that chart like career/ status from 10th of D10

  13. Sri says:

    1. What’s your opinion about the effectiveness (towards it’s Lordship & Natural Karakatwa) of a planet when it’s placed at Gandanta Point?
    2. Any positive change can be seen/ expected, if the same planet is at Exalted position?
    3. What would be the change in results while the same Exalted planet is also Vargottama?

    I tried for detailed information about Gandanta; but could not find apart from What it is. Can you please share me any reference about it?

    • VS says:

      Gandanta points are sensitive more than other rashi sandhis as these are points where both a rashi and nakshatra changes and hence a HARD stop
      any planet which is virgottam will be deeply colored with the significations of that rashi which means it will be highly influenced by that sign. so most important is to see the lord of the sign – its placement, dignity and aspects

      if a planet is virgottam exalted (own sign) which occurs only for Mercury, then it will give very good results if the bhaav is a Kendra or kona

      • Baskar says:

        VS ji,

        Dharmesh Mehta in one of his videos says that any planet in Gandanta degree is very strong . However , I feel that this Gandanta point is a fire and water junction. Any planet there will be in deep distress and hence may not perform well..meaning No good results from Functional benefic and No bad results from Functional malefics.

        Am I right?

        • VS says:

          Any planet which is closer to a rashi sandhi is weak in terms of balaadi avastha. the color of that planet in context of its depositor is weak. This is just one of the avasthas and doesn’t paint the entire picture. however in general, planets in gandanta will be weak as opposed to strong

  14. You have many strong points, and very sound reasons. All Divisional charts is the produced by mathematical procedures. Why should Yogas be considered in Vargas. They are not actual planetary relationships. I have the stand point with you.
    Thanks,
    James C. Pattalung

    • VS says:

      Yes, Yogas should not be considered in divisionals, it is not a standalone chart like D1
      however in D9 if planets are together in the chart, they will act as related for the individual

      this is the same rational as in D1 planets are divided as per 4 trikonas or triangles
      planets in any triangle are strongly related to each other, very much like conjunction. So if a planet is at 8 degrees in 4th bhaav and another at 11 degrees in 12th bhaav, they are both going to act as if conjunct. The mathematical extrapolation of 9th to each other manifests in navamsa or D9 divisional. So for this chart that’s important to see

      but say moon and venus are together in D9. their yoga will not act as per the rulerships moon and venus have in D9 chart. but as the ownerships they have in D1 chart

      • Sundar says:

        Sri VS:
        The yogas in D-1 will not be affected by Venus/Moon conjunction in D-9 but the conjunction will apply to other areas in D-1. So even if Venus and Moon are not aspecting individually or mutually in D-1, during the Venus or Moon Dasa, will they will act together?

        • VS says:

          yes if venus and moon are together in say aquarius in D9 …look at the bhaav that aquarius is in D1
          that’s what both will affect during their mutual periods

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